Hello my name is Frank. I bought a new starter and installed it. I turned the key and I got the same one click noise as before. I had 2 options...

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Hello my name is Frank. I bought a new starter and installed it. I turned the key and I got the same one click noise as before. I had 2 options as to my my starting issue. #1 the starter was bad #2 the ignition starter switch. Since I got the same response as before I thought well fine it is the switch. However as I was sitting there I saw some smoke coming form under the hood. The wire from the starter relay under the hood to the starter was melting the housing. Took the new starter back. they tested it. Bad. Tested my old one. Good. OK, but what do I do now? Melted wire housing and the wire is wrapped up with a bunch of other wires. I had replaced the relay a couple of weeks ago when the not starting issue came up. Should I replace it? No other wires seem to be melted just that one, But I have no idea if any of the wires wrapped together have been affected. Also is it possible that somehow I fried the new starter? When they put on the machine to test it it shut the machine down and they tried 3 times with the same result. I bought new wiring to replace the melted one The end of the wire going to the relay is in a harness of sorts but seems to me that is just a way to hold it together and make it easier to connect the 3 wires attached to relay. This is a 1994 Mazda b4000 v6 4WD basically a Ford ranger

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Terry Brown
Auto Mechanic

The first thing I would check is the earth from the engine to the body/battery as the power is obviously getting to the starter on cranking. The burning wires would be the result of the power trying to find an alternative way back to the battery making the circuit. Listen carefully to the starter when turning the key, make sure it does not run on when you release the key from the start position. 

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Carl Hawkins
Auto Mechanic

Your problem is with your battery or the battery cables. It takes very low amperage to opreate the ignition switch however it take very high amperage to crank the starter motor. You will get most all electrical components to work with a week battery or bad cable connections but the starter will not.

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Michael Facey
Auto Mechanic

Starter issues are simple to diagnose. Attach test light or volt meter to the small single wire terminal on the starter. Simulate starting the vehicle with key. If test lights or get battery voltage at meter and doesn't start than starter is defective. 

Seems to me that you grounded out the ignition wire somewhere. When you cranked it the ignition wire shorted to ground thus melting the wire.

You can simply start over. Or replace the melted wire.

Just get a basic relay. Bosch. Hook it up yourself. Make sure the starter and engine block are clean. Ensures a good ground.

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Customer

I checked the battery it has 12.53 volt reading. Pretty much the same at the relay. (Seems to me that you grounded out the ignition wire somewhere. When you cranked it the ignition wire shorted to ground thus melting the wire.)  Could the new starter  been the cause of the short?

 

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Michael Facey
Auto Mechanic

I could be possible that the new starter was defective.  Simply check for continuity from ignition terminal to the starter case. If you have continuity that would be the cause of melted wires.

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Walter Sedar
Auto Mechanic

Hi Frank, I'm going to assume you have a 2.3L engine.. at the Starter solenoid is a Red/Light Blue wire that's trigger from the ignition switch to energize the starter motor, which is powered up only when the  vehicle is in park and if it's a manual transmission while the clutch is pushed in.. Using a test light unplug the Red/Light Blue wire and turn the key as if you are cranking the engine the test light should light.. if this tests passed... Try jumping the bigger terminals together with a jumper wire or screw driver make sure the vehicle is definitely in park and the parking brake applied the start motor should energize if so your problem is the starter solenoid.. if that doesn't remedy the issue make sure that the negative battery cable is securely attached to the engine corrosion on either end of the negative will cause higher than normal resistance and cause stating system faults.. hope this helps

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Randy Phinney
Auto Mechanic

replace that starter relay, let me know soon

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Customer

I did replace the relay. I was concerned that was damaged  when  the wire housing melted. So in the end it seems  that the problem was  bad grounding and / or dirt and corroison on the wiring connections.  With the exception of running a new wire from the relay to the  starter  Everything has been cleaned and  tightened. I even reused the old relay.  It started  every time without  fuss yesterday and (which I am hoping is) the final test this morning after sitting all night  and having a cold morning. It also seems to be cranking stronger.

Thanks Frank

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Relly De Jesus
Auto Mechanic

Hi Frank

How are you doing? I am suspecting that the relay is loosen which may have cause the issue. If seated tight I believe you'll be good. Please let me know what happens tomorrow when you start it. I'll be standing by and good luck!

Thank you

Relly

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Relly De Jesus
Auto Mechanic

Hello Frank

How are you doing? Hope the truck is doing great as well. Please let me know of the result.

Thank you

Relly

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Relly De Jesus
Auto Mechanic

Hi Frank

How are you doing? Any update on the truck? I'll be standing by for your response.

Thank you

Relly

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Relly De Jesus
Auto Mechanic

Hi Frank

How are you doing? Any update on the truck? I'll be standing by for your response.

Thank you

Relly

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Relly De Jesus
Auto Mechanic

Hello Frank

How's it going?

Relly

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Randy Phinney
Auto Mechanic

could you leave me your text an ill get back to u. this is truly new to me answering guestion

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Relly De Jesus
Auto Mechanic

I believe this Q has already been expired Randy

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