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Starting problem even after charging the batteries and jumping the engine turn over slowly. A second problem arise after jumping the service brake warning light & tone is staying on with no previous problems with hydraulic bakes. The truck is on a Jayco Seneca motor home. 30,000 miles. 2007 Chev 5500 diesel.

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Hi Donald,

Sorry to keep you waiting. 

I suggest that you perform a voltage drop test on the starter main cables. The starter voltage drop should be less than .5V drop total on cranking circuit. This is an important step and is often the cause of a slow cranking complaint. Yet, voltage drop also is a leading cause of click or no-click complaints because almost every vehicle manufacturer uses the heavy positive post, located on the starter solenoid, as a place to pick up the current used to supply the control circuit. 

Since the vehicle is in the shop already, you can ask the mechanic to test te starter. If the start failed to the voltage drop test, then its time to replace the starter.

Let me know if you have further questions. 

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Customer

Thank you Mr. Cada ,  I need to let you know that my Chev 5500 truck is not in the shop but I may need it go.  I am over a hundred miles from the nearest shop that will work on the truck. In checking the voltages to the starter I notice that I only had 10 volts. The unit has 2-12 volt batteries at the rear and the truck has 2-12 volt wired in series the truck batteries had only 10 volts so I put a jumper on the truck batteries and added help from the coach and it start right up. I have a load tester coming Monday or Tuesday I will load test these batteries. 

On the second problem if I disconnect all power i.e. Batteries maybe that will reset the service brake warning sense this was caused by jumping the unit if not could check int to the brake service warning light & tone to see if a reset is available might not be safe to drive to the shop a hundred miles away. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Yeah try to inplug the cable from the positive terminal of the battery and see if that will reset the warning break light.

ill monitor this page and please do let me know of any updates.

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Any update on this issue Donald? 

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Customer

Thank for getting back we had thunder Storm over the week end.  One new battery installed old had 12 volts but on load test it failed. The starting problem is good now how ever service brake warning light is still on and warning tone is going. Like I said before this did not happen when driving it occurred when jumping the motor. Still don't know if I can drive the truck. The warning sign has a wrench, circle & Bakes written. Got to be some fuse or relay that failed during the jumping. 

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Customer

Thanks

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Alright. Common problem with the dsahboard brake light on is the brake light swith that is broken. replace that brake lught switch and you should good to go.

Let me know if you have further questions. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Check also the electric backup to the Hydroboost or Hydromax. The HYDROMAX system has an electric pump to power the HYDROMAX in the event the engine stalls while driving. Without it you would loose power braking if the engine stalled while driving. This electric backup system is checked every time the engine is started. If it does not come on, the warning light and chime will come on shortly. The pump is mounted at the firewall under the hood behind the steering wheel attached to the master cylinder. The pump is powered by a 40 amp plug in relay located right next to the electric motor. Check the relay and maybe it is busted already. 

Let me know if you have further questions. 

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Customer

I checked out the Hydromax system motor is operating right I should of checked the switch out first. 

The dashboard brake light  switch it is located some where under the dash board. Of course I can see the light and follow the wires maybe to the switch. I will ty that in the morning. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Yes it is located under the dashboard and normally near the brake pedal.

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Any update on this Donald?

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Customer

Mr. Cada first thank you for the help you have given me but I am still not up and running. I purchased a new brake light switch and installed it but did not turn off the brake light warning and chime. The 40 amp plug by the hrydromax seem to be working when the unit not running or the pump wouldn't come on and run  

I am not sure what to do next but I have research the fluid level sensor but that doesn't sound like the problem, I know the computer scan the the sister each time you start it but you hear the Hydromax come on when you touch the break before starting.  I have a error code reader that going to try but others than that I am out of option. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Have you checked all the brake lights are working and its functionality. Have someone look at the back of the vehicle while you are pressing down the brake pedal and see if the brake lights are working when you press and release the pedal. 

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Customer

The brake light work. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Ok. Yeah it would be best to have the vehicle scanned using the scan tool. You can also clear the error of the vehicle using the scan tool and see if that will do the trick.

Let me know the result. 

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Customer

I did run the scan it showed (3) errors 1). ERG. 2.) Comp. 3.) Misfired but this is a diesel not gas so misfired mean nothing and I do understand the other two. It also said Monitrs/Mil -off. 

It did clear these errors. I wonder if I should change the 40 amp plug in relay located right next to electric motor?

this has fix other people problem with this error  I guess I am down to guessing. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Fluid levels are ok, right? That would be our last step. Change the relay. the vehicle is still driveable, right? 

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Customer

Fluid level are good. I ordered the ACDelco 12177238 Brake Relay will not come in till next Wednesday 17th I will be out of town till Friday. I think it drivable but will not need before the part come in. Local dealer wanted $87 for relay and on line EBay $24.90 both need to ship item. 

Thanks for your help. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Alright ill be monitor this page nad let me know the result after installing the new relay.

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Hi Donald,

Any update on this issue?

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Customer

I am out town and the part no due in until Thursday. 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Alright. Just give us an update here on what happened with the vehicle.

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Any update Donald? 

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Elixir Cada
Chevy Mechanic

Any update on this, Donald? 

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