I have a sony CDP-EX355 cd player. I just replaced all three belts, but now I'm getting a "Loading error" when I test the unit. The unit...

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I have a sony CDP-EX355 cd player. I just replaced all three belts, but now I'm getting a "Loading error" when I test the unit. The unit can locate the disc and pick it up, however when the reading mechanism starts to close on the disc it does not completely close. The unit tries this 3 times and then gives the "Loading error". Occasionally the "reading area" will close on the disc and read it but not often enough. I cannot locate any type of sensing lens to clean it. I also found a small black piece on my carpet after putting the unit back together. It is L shaped and about 3/4" long - I believe it belongs around the door on the front somewhere - so it "should" not have anything to do with this issue. Thank you

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Abe Pastor
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Abe Pastor
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Hi Kim,

Thanks for getting in touch with us. I can see that you mentioned the SONY model CDP - EX355 which I cant seem to find. I believe you were referring to the SONY CDP - CX355 correct? 

If yes, I have resolved similar cases like this before and I believe I can help you with this "Loading Error" issue on the unit. The  most common problem should be somewhere on the mechanism where the cd is located or the eye (laser lens) itself. But before deciding its the laser eye at fault, you can first check the inside if one of the belts on the pulleys have fallen off or is improperly fitted or somehow loose or dirty from the pulley that might have collected dirt. With this the mechanism can't inject far enough for the laser assembly to come up properly far enough for a good laser alignment therefore giving you the disk read error.

- You can clean these drive belts and the pulley groove where the belt is attached with alchohol and put them back in. Please try the steps however, this should not be the main cause of the problem in some cases since you have already replaced the belts with new ones I assume. Just double check those belts and pulleys are clean from collected dust dirt and old belt residue since old belts have the tendency to worn out or crack leaving powdery like residues in the pulleys.

- You can clean these with alchohol and put them back in.

Once you have tried checking and cleaning and if the issue is still there, chances are real good that the laser lens has gone out or is too weak to read the disk. You have mentioned though that sometimes it picks up and then you get the error. It's a maticelous procedure to calibrate a laser lens. It may just need to be replaced. Anyway you can try cleaning them first to see if this resolves the problem:

- If your player is not reading any discs at all though (or the cleaning does not help), then try purchasing a can of compressed air (available at Staples, or Wal-Mart). Open the CD drawer, or remove the cover of the player by removing the screws on the sides and rear of the unit. Then spray the can approximately 10" from the lense itself to blow any dust off of it.

- If it still does'nt work, you can opt to clean the lense eye itself, by using isopropyl alcohol, and a link-free cloth to gently wipe the "eye". Then use a dry spot on the cloth to buff the eye clean. If the CD player is still not reading discs, then the eye or transport mechanism is faulty and would need to be replaced. Replacing the lens can be a bit challenging and might need a professional to work on it but in case you want to do this yourself please proceed with caution. I would suggest that you take photos of the process during disassembly to have a guide. I will also provide a reference video and where you can look for a replacement on links below as a guide for you.

Please click on this link for the reference video guide: Replacing the lens on Sony CDP CX355

Replacement lens can be found online and should cost around $12. Here's one that sells the replacement lens: NEW OPTICAL LASER LENS PICKUP for SONY CDP-CX355 Player

As a last thought though may not be the major cause of the problem, there may be a swollen capacitor on one of the circuit boards that may be causing the problem. A cap swells and shorts out. If so it will need to be replaced. I've had single swollen cap that kept an entire system from working before.

Please take your time in following the steps and I hope my answers is helpful. Please let me know by replying to this message once you are already satisfied with the answer.  I will be waiting for your response. Thanks.

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Customer

 I read somewhere that the entire "optical device" is available for sale- part no. KSM-213BFN/M-NP.  I'll have to take my  unit apart again to double check that part number, but do you know where I could locate that part?      

I did clean the pulleys when I changed the belts and I've tried cleaning the lens already.

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Customer

I found where I heard about the entire assembly being available- see below.  I just can't find someone who sells it.

https://www.electronicspoint.com/forums/threads/sony-cd-changer-problems.65326/

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Abe Pastor
Technician

Thanks for replying. It should be labelled somewhere on the part itself but I havent personally checked labels since some of them are too small to read and sometimes faint. What I do is check the physical structure and  sometimes contact seller to verify part number since its included in the replacement packaging. I included a link from ebay below ( or CLICK HERE) where you can find the lens assembly. Is this the one you are referring to? Another thing the part number KSM-213BFN/M-NP you mentioned is the same for the models CDP CX300, CX400, CX450 as well if I can recall.

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Customer

Do you know of a source where I can purchase part no.  KSM-213BFN/MNP ?  I think it would be alot easier to replace the entire optical assembly in one piece.  

Thank you

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Abe Pastor
Technician

Its hard to look for the entire assembly but I'll try to look for one. I'll let you know if I find something. Please give me some time to research on this. I'll leave a message here once I find some sources. Thanks for your patience.

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Customer

 Just one more question then I'll leave you be for awhile- Do you know if all Sony cdp-cx-355's would have the same part no. for the optical assembly?  I don't know that much about electronics - would Sony change part no.s as they produced the units? 

Sorry the only electronics I'm used to playing in are hospital lab equipment.

Thank you

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Abe Pastor
Technician

Most of them have the same parts usually basing on the model (CDP - EX series for example) but not all of it. Some differ in some rare cases. And from what I know the models CDP CX300, CX400, CX450 have the same parts specific to the assembly. Sometimes the part numbers differ but they fit the same on a particular unit like replacement parts here are some examples:

https://picclick.com/ORIGINAL-Sony-Optical-Pickup-LASER-Replace-The-KSS-213B-K- ***-***-**** 38.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-Sony-Optical-Pickup-LASER-Replace-The-KSS-213B-K-KSM-213BFN-KSM-215DCP-/ ***-***-**** 38

I could provide you a service manual if you need one. That way you can view the specific board assembly for the optical device if needed. Just let me know. Thanks.

 

 

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Abe Pastor
Technician

By the way, I think you are also referring to replacing the board aside from the lens assembly? this one is the part # A3328818A Base Assembly (Ksm-213bfn) Op. 

 

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Abe Pastor
Technician

Hi Kim,

Thanks for your patience. I have done all research on stores and sources where I can find the part number A3328818A Base Assembly KSM-213BFN which Im thinking you would also want to replace,  and found out that it is no longer available on most stores online EXCEPT for 1 store. The manufacturer claims they no longer makes this part and there's no substitute part for it. But the good news is, I found 1 site claims they have the A3328818A Base Assembly KSM-213BFN available.

Its from this site: https://www.justithardware.com/rfq/sony/a3328818a/  You can get in touch with them through phone +1- ***-***-**** , or email them at s**[email protected]

You can also get in touch with part sellers through phone and verify just in case the A3328818A Base Assembly (Ksm-213bfn) is still available from them or they can find other ways to get one for you. Ill provide contact numbers below:

  • Sony.encompass.com ***-***-****  
  • Reliableparts.ca 1- ***-***-****
  • Searspartsdirect.com +1- ***-***-****

NOTE: Just in case the A3328818A Base Assembly KSM-213BFN is already not available. I would suggest just getting the lens assembly provided on my previous messages. The guide video Replacing the lens on Sony CDP CX355 will help you with the assembly and in addition to that I will provide a link for the service manual that you can download below:

NOTE: When ordering parts from the website, please verify your part number is correct for your model before ordering. Parts may look the same but the size and shape can have small variations. 

Please let me know by replying to this message once you are already satisfied with the answer.  I will be waiting for your response. Thanks.

 

 

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Customer

Thanks,

I believe I have this straight now but you can confirm please.  The part I would prefer to purchase is the "A3328818A Base assembly KSM-213BFN" - this is a replacement for the entire optic panel including a new lens assembly.  

If that is not available I should get just the lens assembly which is part no. "???" - I don't know this part no., but I can purchase the one you located on Ebay..... However I SHOULD NOT need this if I can located the part above (A3328818A Base assembly KSM-213BFN).   Is that last sentence correct?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.   Thanks so much for your help.  

I will be ripping apart my unit again just to verify these part no.s if I can find them in there.  I'll be doing that later today.

Thanks again for your help

Kim

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Customer

 I finally located the entire assembly for sale (your reccomendation had a $1000 minimum order).  Located in UK at sparedparts.com.  Hopefully it will arrive in a timely manner.  

Thanks for your help

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Abe Pastor
Technician

Hi Kim,

It was a pleasure helping you with your Sony "Loading error" issue. Here is a summary of the resolution. 

Issue identified : Loading error even with new belts installed 

Solution Implemented : Most loading error could be an issue with the lens. Suggested cleaning the lens as first step and lens assembly replacement if error still shows up. Provided resources on parts replacement, assembly and service manual for  the unit. Customer able to locate entire assembly (lens with base). 

 

Answer Accepted

 

 

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